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Matthew Rodriguez's avatar

I am a very routine-focused person, so this is a good one for me to practice — changing my schedule in a way I usually perceive as “negative” (not getting home from work at a particular time, having to do an extra chore, etc.), but instead thinking about it in neutral terms.

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karinwithani's avatar

This brings to mind the subject of lesson 6 and adds another tool to practise being prepared for adversity.Shifting the focus from the new I phone to establishing a strategy for dealing with anxiety about future adversity appears to be a lot more conducive.

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Massimo Pigliucci's avatar

Exactly. As often with Stoicism, it's a "mind trick," but a crucial one: reframe things in order to live a better life.

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karinwithani's avatar

Massimo could you talk some more about this " mind trick " as it applies here,what is meant by that and what other Stoic mind tricks have you encountered.

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Massimo Pigliucci's avatar

Oh, I used that phrase because I sometimes hear people dismiss Stoicism as "just a mind trick." To me, life itself is a mind trick, in the sense that we navigate it by way of framing things in one way or another in our mind. Stoicism is, in that sense, a mind trick, meaning a particular way to think about life and how to live it.

Bill Irvine has written an entire book about this: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43726564-the-stoic-challenge

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karinwithani's avatar

Makes sense to me,"their mind trick" is my anchor to sanity. 🙃

Thank you

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Jim Zikos's avatar

Massimo, as a follow-up to the previous comments, I found exercises 6 & 10 presented in another Stoic source as different variations of the same exercise. Would you say that's appropriate?

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Massimo Pigliucci's avatar

Jim, not sure. You might need to elaborate about the source and the presentation.

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Jim Zikos's avatar

From The Little Book of Stoicism by Jonas Salzgeber, the practice is called Voluntary Discomfort and they present three forms of it: 1) Temporary Poverty, 2) Get Yourself in Uncomfortable Situations, and 3) Purposefully Forgo Pleasure. The first two seem to follow from your 6th exercise and third one from your 10th.

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Massimo Pigliucci's avatar

Well, these exercises are common knowledge. Of course, if someone takes them from another book they should acknowledge the source.

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Jim Zikos's avatar

The reason I asked was because lesson 6 is a bit difficult for me for psychosomatic reasons to put into practice. But lesson 10 feels doable, so it felt like consolation to me if I could practise it as a variation of lesson 6! 😀

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