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Chester H. Sunde, Psy.D.'s avatar

Thanks for this thoughtful piece on Leopardi's challenge, Massimo! I found the discussion fascinating, especially the connection to modern neuroscience and Seneca's reflections on rational suicide.I wonder, though, if we might be too quick to accept Leopardi's challenge.

While it's true that our mental faculties depend on our brains and can be compromised, doesn't this commit a kind of category error? The fact that our agency could be undermined doesn't mean it isn't genuinely "up to us" when our faculties are functioning normally.

In my work on constitutional psychology, I've been struck by how much we can actually optimize our executive functions through philosophical practice and self-reflection. When our faculties are intact, there really are quite a lot of things up to us—our choices, our responses, how we cultivate wisdom and integrate the different aspects of our nature. The contingency of these capacities doesn't make them any less real or meaningful while we have them.

Maybe the more precise formulation is: "Many things are genuinely up to us until they're not." This seems both more accurate than naive claims about unlimited control and more useful than Leopardi's pessimistic conclusion. We can work skillfully with the meaningful agency we do possess, recognizing its conditions without dismissing its reality.

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Paul Braterman, Facts Matter's avatar

Thank you, Massimo. Very useful.

The central paradox, that our eudaimonia depends on what we can control, and yet that the operation of our minds is constrained by the fate of our bodies, seems to me another version of the paradox of "free will;" from which I would agree with you that compatibilism is the only possible escape. Choosing is a fundamental part of our experience, and central to stoicism, and yet the material processes ion our brains when we choose are subject to effectively deterministic physical law.

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