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DJSMDJD's avatar

I'm always amazed how the "ancients" came to their conclusions without the benefit of what we call science.

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ikester8's avatar

Many modern determinists seem to be throwing in the towel a bit early. Just because the origin of a thought or action is not yet entirely traceable or appears to happen long before the person is cognizant of having a thought or action doesn't mean that there is no will involved. It just means the timeline starts earlier than we thought. Maybe much earlier. And to note that many of our actions are nearly automatic and don't require much aforethought doesn't imply a lack of free will, either. I'm glad I don't have to think much about most daily activities, once I've decided to do them and I already know how. Assent is still necessary for actions, perhaps less necessary for thoughts, but, as Epictetus might say, it's a good idea to practice assent to develop the means to think and act well.

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